[Vortex] APEX / XMPP over BEEP?

[Jens Alfke]

On 4 May '08, at 4:26 AM, Robert M. Münch wrote:

> Well, I like the idea of an application / service framework with a  
> dynamic
> mesh. Beside IM a lot of different applications come to mind. For  
> example
> a P2P eBay. You just publish your stuff and others can query it.

That's kind of what I'm working on; see my series of blog posts  
starting with
	http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/04/cloudy-as-buzzwords/

If you really are thinking of a P2P protocol, then you need to deal  
with a large number of critical issues that aren't addressed by either  
APEX or XMPP, because both of those assume the existence of trusted  
servers with well-known addresses. Issues like how to create  
identities, how to trust that an identity belongs to a specific  
person, how to verify the authenticity of messages, how to find the  
addresses of the other nodes in the mesh...

I'm in the midst of implementing these things. However, I am not  
trying to create a completely general infrastructure service, at least  
not at first, because there's no hook to make people want to actually  
use it. Instead I'm creating a specific GUI application on top of it  
(whose details I'm not talking about yet) that should hopefully be  
compelling enough to get some adoption of the platform.

—Jens
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